exactly, there's no such thing as bad kids, its called bad parenting. how could she even say he is an awful child. he is YOUR child youre raising him!! and hes 5 years old!!! that's what they do!!! its your fault!

I'm a mom and my son is the same way but you know what? at that age, kids ARE Unreasonable and illogical as you put it, because they're CHILDREN!!! you really have no common sense if you expect them to be logical and reasonable. they need to be TAUGHT!!! by YOU THEIR MOTHER!!! and don't complain about how you never get a break, I'm speaking from experience, I am a single mother I've been through hell and back, but you are the ones who chose to have your children, they didnt ask to be brought into the world. its not their fault. you accepted the responsibility of being a mother, so expect it to be difficult. I don't believe smacking your kids across the face is the proper way to handle it. you can ask your children what they want and ggive them suggestions, if they don't like it or don't know what they want, choose for them, and if they are hungry they will eat. you have to realize you are the parent, you say what goes, but every kid has.their own personality and they may not always agree. but there are better ways to handle it, trust me. my son has tested my patience plenty of times and it gets rreally stressful, but you need to learn to take a deep breath count to ten and calm down keep your patience. its a learning experience and you learn as you go, but you don't need to be violent to get your point across. they're old enough for time outs, put em in the corner or the chair or wherever one minute for each year old so 5 year old gets 5 mins in time-out. if they get up pick them up calmly and put them back where they have to sit for time-out. everytime they get up they have to start timeout all over again. and dont try to talk to them while theyre in timeout leave them alone and when they are calm enough to listen and follow directions, sit down and talk to them and tell them what behavior caused the timeout and tell them they made a bad choice but theyre not a bad kid. you need to be positive too and reassure them that they will get rewarded for their good choices. honestly it works with patience and time. it will be difficult at first but if you're consistent and continue to do the same over and over, you will see a big difference. your children look up to you and need you to guide them, be the mentors they need and turn to for advice, that is how you earn their respect, not to fear you. if you teach them to fear you, and you don't listen to them, when they get older they will rebel and hide things from you because they're afraid and can't trust you. its easier said than done and I struggle with my son at times too but its important to try this..good luck.

damn, your 5 year old "simply said no" and got slapped? haha! lady, you are in for a HUGE shock when he is 15!! you better pull your head outta your ass NOW because I gaurantee it does not get any easier!! and who in the hell has ever expected a five year old to be REASONABLE???? of course he is unreasonable, hes friggin FIVE! and dont you think freaking out just because he said no to you and slapping him is unreasonable? get a grip!

u deserve to die for that shit u just dont know how to be a parent

Get back in the kitchen and feed him u bitch

I see that it's been a couple years since this has been posted but as a mother of a 4 year old boy I gotta say and I hope you read this, that you are a vile bitch. The child simply said no and you hit him and screamed at him?? Really?!? Further proof right here why some people don't deserve to have children and why stupid people shouldn't breed. Karma is a bitch and will slap you in the fucking face 10 times as hard as you hit your son... Assuming that this is actually a true story and not some desperate skank in need of attention so she has to make shit up. Here's to hoping it's the second one cause you shouldn't have children...

you might nit care if we judges you but that is vary fucked up. he's only five and doesn't know how time works an hour to use could be 3 to him. you should get slapped in the face. you little shit. you'd deserve it

that is do not okay. you should NEVER use any type of physical punishment! that teaches them that its okay to hit! if a child frustrates you you're supposed to put them in sage place (their room, oak n play, etc) and walk away! holy Jesus you sound like a bitch!

wtf you stupid bitch he's 3! you didn't need to smack him u lazy psychopath

Woah Bitch you need some serious help!! He's a freaking child!! They're use to having a schedule!!! Its your fault for having lunch everyday at 11!! Did you ever think he might have a slight mental problem like autism?? Look in to it! Jeez you're a cold heartless Bitch for hitting someone who can't even defend themself

He's 5 wat do u expect?

He is 5 years old u fuck head..he just being a child u ass...so go feed him..

he's not unreasonable ,he just said no. unreasanable is when u try to reason but the just stick to it. tell hi u'll cook tomorow but not today he may say ok

how do you expect him to reason? hes fucking 5 years old!

I hope you are a parent. You certainly should be. Take heed, people.

that little shit do deserve don't listen to no nobody on this site giving you parent advice they are probably writing this while their kids are having sex and doing incest shit discipline your kids

Okay, hell no! Kids don't need to get hit! Kids need to be talked to. Kids need to understand that some things are over the line, but they won't learn if you it them.

Yeah you oft mothers poil our kids and leave in the society unleashed. Your children end up in jail if no control on them at younger age.

Nope, old homes n nurses, no matter hat u do for them , they start their own families n forget ho donkey dad was and cow mother was. Thy think older people r burden .

Spank hard and spank often!

No - corporal punishment is exactly what this child needs. Get a wooden paddle and use it, hard, on the bare bottom. Make him throb and burn and sting.

That is not patience and violence should never solve anything. Punishment maybe but you should feel guilty for being unreasonable, for Christ's sake it's a child do you need parenting classes? Children prefer to live on a solid schedule and its absolutely expected for the child to want a proper lunch, and if that's so unreasonable then try eating breakfast earlier. Never hit a child, they don't know they are "wrong" he or she was doing what you taught them, eating lunch at that desired time. Poor child.

He is that way because of the way you treat him. It is your own fault. Pendeja.

Let him eat your pussy instead and he'll calm down. I promise you it works wonders. Those little guys would do anything you want for it..

Best line! Lmao! :D

I'll tell you what I think. I don't think you're a year over 17 because people on this website post fake things

LOL

WTF? "Patient mom" my @SS! You couldn't Atleast put him in a "corner" so he wouldn't misbehave??? Lady you're cruel and you have anger issues! DO NOT HIT YOUR CHILD!! REMEMBER HE IS JUST A CHILD AND IS INEXPERIENCE WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S FEELINGS. YOU'RE A TERRIBLE MOM FOR DOING THAT TO YOUR CHILD!!!!!!!

if your 5 yr. old son is such an awful child then you must be an awful parent because you have raised him up until now he has your blood running thru his veins and remember that the apple dosn't fall far from the tree so he must get it from somewhere!! our children are a direct reflection of their parents so maybe you need to take a good look in the mirror before calling your son an awful child and hitting him across the face he is five yrs old for crying out loud someone should smack you across the face those are horrible things to say about a child no matter how upset you might be the only person i blame is you.

"Aint no body got time for that", now go and play you're annoying me

all of the yes.

ok....i think i agree with what you are saying...though im not really sure because i can't translate this into proper english. not trying to be rude. just sayin.

You're fucking amazing. Couldn't agree more!

I'm sorry, but today's society is too sensitive. I am not advocating child abuse, but I do not see the problem with laying hands on a kid that deserves it. I'm not saying that you should beat the little brat, but a quick smack isn't going to hurt him. We focus on "anger management techniques" and placing bad people in jail but it all comes down to sensitive people doing sensitive things to prevent strong people from doing strong things. For the record, I think the OP is a cunt. No problem with the face smack. I just think it's a little cunty to haul off and smack your kid while he is sitting on your lap. It's fine to teach your mouthy little worm that he is the child and you are the parent. Everyone else can get the fuck over it. Stop being so goddamned sensitive.

you should go to jail for that

y u smaked him I men sur if he is beng anoyang hen u mast du sumtheng abutt it k? bt idk if smak is rite I men it hurt no? bt he jest a lil cild so mayb nxt tiem u can b mor gental?

fake and gay

HAH how much you wanna bet she didn't do this and she's just a pathetic little whiny attention whore. Fuckin' retards.

How is this sexual :c PLZ SOMEONE TELL ME WHAHAHA

My nephew was the same way. I've know since he was 3 that he had a narcissitic personality disorder. I wouldn't hit the kid if I were you but do let him know who is in charge. As he gets older he will probably become even more unlikable. Make certain he understand that he can never push you around. My nephew is now 22 and I have banned him from my company. He's not even allowed to speak to me at family dinners.

Evil woman

U lazy

agreed

You need to study up on anger management techniques and do better as a mother from now on. You completely over-reacted, he is still a toddler and you need to have more patience. You could have simply said "Either you have a little snack, or you don't get anything" that's just my point of view. If he is unbearable, you need to discipline him through "time outs" or good old fashioned spanking (not too hard that it harms him). Not smacking in the face, that's child abuse.

You are pathetic. You are a horrible mother. That was an extremely overboard reaction. He deserves better than you. Work on yourself; you're the one that needs it. Remember, when your sorry ass is old, your children are the ones who will be taking care of you.

Smacking him across the face is not how I would go about it. I wonder if it teaches the child anything but resentment. I live with a difficult 5 year old who came with my partner when I met her, she's always doing the wrong thing but I try to take something away and distance myself if she's bad and do something nice and show affection when she's good. You need better strategies to incentivise the kid to behave. I understand your frustration but I've heard you can't really rationalise with a child until they're atleast 7, so in the meantime try to use disciplinary measures your child can learn something useful from. Physically lashing out will not lead to improved behaviour in my opinion.

you're such a shitty parent lol

Thanks for making one more irrational asshole, this planet really needed one more of those! Seriously lady, kids will always push every boundary you have. If you're going to implement corporal punishments then you need to make concrete rules about when you will and will not use them. These rules aren't for the kid, they're for you. The alternative is a neurotic damaged child with shitty parenting skills of his own who will probably grow up to be a whiny douche who cries about being hit as a kid...

Children are always going to test you, very few parents are lucky enough to have a child that is calm, and reasonable. What you have to do as a parent is never allow that child to feel unloved, since you probably never done that he most likely was shocked by your actions, just make sure you still care for him and understand your not the only one going through it. I have 4 kids all under 12, and two are 4 & 5, so believe me when I say patience is something that takes time to acquire with kids, but keep working at it. It's ok to discipline your child too from time to time, but make sure he always knows what he's being spanked for. Good Luck!

Oh please you should have been smacked as a child obviously

Son cursed at his mother, she put him in his place.

To the sicko mother who wrote this shit: Creatures like you are living proof, that americans are inherently inferior morons. You know NOTHING about how to be a mother, plus if you take your kids to mc'donalds, then you're even a greater bloody idiot than words could describe. Seems like your 5 year old son does ALREADY have more sense in his tiniest toe, than you would EVER have in your empty brain!!

The planet can't be saved you green tree hugging fools!

i deal with that shit on a daily basis. i wouldnt have smacked him right away however i would never tell another person how to parent. i look at it as if i smack them they have gotten the better of me. however, if i stand strong and reinforce the point that they have been told what to do, i win because i have shown whos boss. physical discipline only works until they are bigger then you. at that point they have learned to be physical instead of mental. dont get me wrong tho, i have a belt hanging up to remind them. i have only had to use it about twice a year. i completely understand the type of rage that builds when someone that you would die for treats you like shit. its maddening to devote your life and love to someone and give them everything you have and in turn they spit in your face. it really reminds me about the story of the scorpion stabbing the frog. i would give my kids the world if only they would be reasonable. i would gladly empty my bank account making them happy. if only they knew the pain and stress they put us through. btw i have a 5 yr old girl and 7 yr old boy both with ADHD. in concluson i will say when i moved out at 18 yrs old i finally realized how hard life is. only then did i realize the shit i put my parents through. then when i had kids i called my mom and apologized for how i acted (especially in my teens) and told her i wish i could have the strength she did raising three kids while my dad was in jail.

spank him damn lil brat..... then lock him in a room

I understand. I feel that way about my kids too.

maybe u should start stopping giving them Mc Donald's SHIT

Original post is nearly a year ago, so doubtful that the poster is even reading any of this shit. My advice is to bitch slap the kid. You're the parent, fucking hit the bastard. That's the problem with parents today, they let the kids run the roost. Put on your big-person panties.

Although , He possibly needs more food than your younger one or yourself. So stop being a bitch just because you are lazy to cook . Cook extra meals for kids and leave them in the fridge if you are that lazy. Also make sure , you show him extended spurts of affection even when the younger kid is around by kissing and hugging him constantly .. Finally if he continues being a bitch whack that arse well, but make sure its ONLY BELOW THE WAIST on the legs.... And discipling in this way should end by the time the kid is atleast 10 .... the kids then start getting embarrassed when they feel older and are being beatn .

Ignore all these people lady. What you did is fine .. Sometimes you need to discipline your kids by smacking them but there is a way to it : - WHen you want to beat your kid , make sure its BELOW HIS ? HER WAIST .. i.e. on the legs.. - Whack the kid on the legs as much as you want seriously ! NEVER near the face or head.. because those are tender until their teens and may affect their brains in a way or another. - My mum disciplined my sorry arse by whacking teh shit out of me .... and hell I turned out PERFECT with no issues ! - She always reminds me that when I have kids and I want to discipline them , whack them freely on their legs but no other place... back is fine but preferably legs . Even if you have many kids who fight and hit each other,, discipline them to hit each other only on their legs.. if the elder hits the younger on teh head .... time to smack that kid on his legs mercilessly in order to REMEMBER that he is NOT free to hit his younger sibling on the head...

I think you need to get laid, your stressed out. When is the last time you cum? If you can't get laid at least finger yourself to orgasm, then you won't be such a stressed out cunt.

you bitch!

Im just gonna make a small prayer for you right now! God bless you I rebuke all negativity!

where did he learn to talk and act this way in the first place? anyway, a little pain for discipline is neccessary

Worthless parent... you should let him sniff your pussy and suck on your tits. Wait, he probably does this already.

ass woopin!

it is a load of rubbish, they are mtosly cia doing all the big jobs to have someone to blame for what they are doing and going to do, CIA can hack and destroy any company, want proof??? if they can hack the CIA and the banks, and their goal is to bring down the globalist banks? and the world economy, then why dont they do it in one day, if greeces top companys go down, the world will know they will be unable to stop the default and the world economy and wall street will fall, but no such attacks

Tuck off shes human

Genetics are a powerful force.

AGREED! Why did you ask him??"?????? You are the MOM. Do not ask, simply state..."you just ate, we will have a snack in a little while" If he shows his ass, put him in "time out" in his room until he can stop showing his ass. or put a belt his bootie if he wont settle down. Kids these days drive me crazy, as do their parents who are too scared to parent.

You are a dumbass mom, he is 5, you can also teach him stuff. When he is older you can beat his ass. He might not understand it all. Your a bitch for saying you have a horrible child.

God? what God if she is real she diddent help you

from yhe read here that was really out of character for you, and the thing you have to be with kids, is consistent. but listen, gird up your loins, stop letting him manipulate you and be the boss. be the grown up. take charge, and accept nothing but your will and his respect.

Spank, spank, spank, spank, spank. Do not do anything to his face, but spank him good if he continues to be a brat. I was spanked regularly as a child, and turned into a good-natured, well-spoken person who calls people she doesn't know 'Sir' and 'Ma'am'. Military values taught me that if you pop off, you're going to get a spanking. Don't be ashamed of appropriate corporal punishment----and for God's sake, don't let your child walk all over you.

I would have spanked him real good but I wouldn't have hit him in the face. And remember he is only 5 and you are the parent, so whoop his ass but don't ruin him emotionally! My parents beat my ass all the time because I stayed in trouble and now I'm going to be graduating with a Masters in Business! I would like to thank God, my parents and grandparents, and of course the my Dad's Belt because I wouldn't have made it without you beating my ass! Thank you soooo much!

LAUGHING MY ASS OFF! I'M WITH YOU!

He is 5 years old...WHOOP HIS LITTLE ASS! Simple as that! If you don't by the time he is 10 he will be whooping your ass! WHOOP HIS ASS! Don't abuse him but pull them pants down and whoop him real good! Find a nice thick belt and WHOOP HIS ASS! My parents whooped me and I graduated from high school and college with honors and I'm a better person. I thanked my parents on Mothers and Fathers day for Whooping my bad ass! It will hurt now but he will thank you later. If you don't stop him now he will either end up dead or in jail before he even turns 30! I see it everyday in my line of work. Trust me WHOOP HIS ASS!

It's so uplifting to know that he'll be scared for life.

If there were a down facing arrow, I would type, absolutely true. Children are shaped by their parenting as well. Remember that.

Are you fucking kidding me? He's FIVE!!!!! Listen, the frontal lobe of the human brain doesn't fully develop until early twenties. That is the part of the brain that allows you to fully reason and figure shit out. Him saying 'No' was doing something that he can control, in a world where he can control very little. You on the other hand can control so much more, Go in another room and scream if it helps, take a walk, whatever. But DO NOT hit and scream at your kid because YOU messed up his normal routine! Honestly you should be ashamed and probably shouldn't be anywhere near your kids until you undergo anger management or something, if ever.

Beat his ass. But don't yell at him. Hurt him physically not emotionally.

WTF is your problem? He's five years old!!! He doesn't deserve to be smacked across the face. When i came here i expected it to be about an 8 year old or 15 year old not a 5 year old. You're a piece of shit mother! I hope CPS comes and takes away your kids

Dear overwhelmed-white-middle-class mother, Beat his ass. But don’t hit the kid’s face (that’s when people start asking questions). Why would you take some shit like that from your own brat? Smdh. Sincerely, A racial minority

Ya'll niggas be trollin' up a fucking storm up in this bitch! XD

Exactly!! Children have parents because they cannot consciously make good decisions for themselves. If it were up to the kids, they'd have gummy worms and milkshake for lunch. It is your job as the parent to show them what is right and healthy! Gummy worms just isn't a reasonable lunch!

AMEN TO THAT!!!! SPANK THE LITTLE SHITHEAD!!

Spank him. I got spanked as a kid and I turned out just fine. Or use physical fitness training like they do in the military. There is also the tine out option. I use all the above on my kidsWe depending on the situation. (not all at once though!)

This is the same guy as the last post. I just wanted to say that your kid will be ok. I think you need to talk to him and let him know that what you did is wrong, but he needs to learn respect because you are his mother and if it wasn't for you, he wouldn't be there. You can't let something like that go on without comment. sometimes you just wanna smack the shit out of em cause they don't listen. But you have to understand that at this time, they are unable to comprehend the fact that you've been there done that. Maybe try focusing on establishing some rules and letting him know that sometimes you make mistakes but you are his mother and what you say goes. He'll be ok and I hope you will too

I understand where you're coming from...I was a good kid; when my mom told me to do this or that I said 'Yes mom' no questions asked. At the same time, I think it is wrong that you smacked your child for that. I'm sure it wasn't for that alone. It may have been something building up, but the best way to handle that situation is to consider the possibilty that maybe his hunger is legit, which you may have or haven't done Idk and simply put yourself in the position of authority and tell him 'I'm sorry, but today is different because we ate an hour ago and it wouldn't be good for you to eat so much right now. I told you you can have a snack and if you don't want it, that's fine, but you are going to wait until later to eat.' One thing you shouldn't do is argue with him on his terms or result to hitting him on his face. You are the parent. He is the child. Nothing he says can change that and you don't need to show him that kind of aggressiveness for the wrong reasons. Sometimes whippings and beatings are mandatory, but I think in this case it could have went so much better if you took the time to think of the best way to react before smacking him. He's your child and we are all a product of our experiences, so maybe you should take the time to figure out why he is acting so irrational because the last thing you want is him going to school and smacking a kid because he disagreed lol. Take it easy

Don't listen to these BRUTES! They don't understand how it is sometimes with kids. I babysit part time at a daycare and some of the kids or devils. Just stay strong your a good parent, don't let your anger get the best of you and derail your good parenting.

I dont judge you for smacking him, I judge you for saying he deserved it, and he is unreasonable. Hes a fucking kid! You probably did the same exact thing when you were growing up, slapping him for saying no once is not deserving it, The way you explained it he wasnt being unreasonable, hes only five, and your an adult! BE ONE!

I agree with you. I am from a white family with the same rules of discipline where it would be acceptable to smack a child etc etc. I feel that the author of this post hit her child without good reason though and I think hitting him in the face is a little too harsh considering his young age. I hope she gets beaten up off somebody for no reason, she may then receive a taste of her own medicine.

Smacking a kid and beating them are 2 different things. There is a thin line between abuse and discipline, I know that for sure! But my parents are Asian, and corporal punishment was how they grew up. I learned that I got hit because my parents were teaching me. They were teaching me not to act out and be an ass. Because I was a bad kid and needed those spankings. If your kid is bad, spank them, because timeout does not scare many kids nowadays. Better to spank every once in a while when your kids get too bad than emotionally abuse them. Not all kids are bad, but some just have a really bad attitude. If they are not afraid of you or respect you how do you plan on taming them in the really rough teenage years? Also, my husband is Samoan, and man do the parents over there really BEAT those kids up. It is sad, there is a fine line, and you don't hit to draw blood, or cause bruises. You hit just enough (firm and assertive, not too aggressive) so that the kid understands not to repeat said behavior. I guess because of my upbringing it is something I am used to. Not something that you guys are used to, but boy I bet every parent wants to just smack their kid at some point! More power to you lady, though you should have waited till your son really acted up, or spanked him when he was 3 for saying no so much. Because he was just doing what was routine to him, and wanting to eat lunch. BTW, I eat breakfast at around 11 and lunch at 3 and dinner at maybe 7 or 8. I don't understand your time framing.

RIGHT ON! SHE'S A CUNT! WANTS HER WOMB DESTROYING AND HER KIDS SENDING TO A BETTER FAMILY.

YOU DON'T DESERVE KIDS YOU FUCKING SKANK.

You're sons very right you evil bitch, you are a 'bad mommy'. So you took him to McDonald's for a treat, well way to go, you think you're some kinda fucking saint? You're son was acting out as most kids do at that age, you didn't know how to handle the situation as a responsible parent and so you chose to hit him in the face. I'm not completeley condemning people that physically punish children but in my view he's too young and I don't feel he was disobedient enough to merit such treatment. YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE CAPABLE OF CONCEIVING CHILDREN AND I HOPE SOMEONE HITS YOU IN THE FACE WITH A ROCK. KEEP THESE PARENTING SKILLS UP AND I'M GUESSING YOU'RE SON WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THE JOB IN A FEW YEARS YOU BITCH.

Because standing outside is a world much worse than the one in hear. I sort of admire you in a way. You and your sarcastic and smart Assish ways.

Ah, the window is there, but the drapes are drawn.

Sure thing. ;)

Yes, you have every right to feel vindicated. Your tenacity in pursuit of the child's welfare is most admirable. Your unflinching determination to keeping the focus on the protection and safety of one small boy is true heroism. You have cleverly line by line dissected the original post leaving no room for denial as to the severity of this act. So convincing have your arguments been that any reader must say in their heart, ' I cannot, with self respect, do other than heed the warnings that I have read here and hold sacred my obligation to a child that needs me.

um, if you think that he is awful becuase he is used to a regular schedule (lunch at noon), I can't imagine what else you think he is awful for. I think you have to examine your reaction and short fuse. Also, kids tend to behave like their parents (genetically) and model the behaivor. You know what he got out of that? 'when i'm not getting my way, I'll smack someone'. You are the adult, or should be, you need to model the behaivor. That whole event sounds perfectly reasonable- if you had just made lunch, something simple - like hello, boil some pasta in 8minutes and put cheese and salt on it. Unreasonable- he is 5 years old, thats what they do. sure there may be an issue there (like ADD, bipolar disorder or something else) - but if its pervasive, get him examined, and sometimes you just don't know until its official in years. As for 'i did not intend to do it'- to make you think that means you won't do it again- what a laugh. Most husbands who abuse their wife 'didnt mean to do it, she just made me so mad (its her fault). The fact you even blamed him for your action, is a serious sign- you need to get help asap before you take it to the next level. you probaly already are hyper critical and verbally dangerous to him (just by reading your rational). And listen, I am not the kind of parent who coddles kids, I keep them in line. But this, what you did is different here. If you child is constantly 'unreasonable' there may be another issue worth investigating - and if there is, it might relieve your stress to find it.

As she stated here, she does not plan to carry on with this behavior. Also, she seems remorseful. Several of my points have been proven.

Again, you make it seem as though I agree with what she has done, while I still do not. Also, you see, in this country, unless you leave a bruise or a mark lasting more than a day on the child there is no abuse. Another point here is that yelling at your child is not abuse. Also, in most states it is ok to slap your child, an open hand policy they say. Never to strike with a closed fist or the back of your hand. So, I ask you, where is the abuse? She never said with what amount of force she had slapped her child. So, I assume that you assume that she slapped him with full force correct? My guess is that if she had done so, unless this 5 year old were a very large 5 year old, he more than likely would have been knocked clear out. I believe she probably just gave him a slap to the face that he hardly felt and that it simply startled him that 'mommy hit him' and over reacted a bit just as his mother did. Maybe I'm wrong.. Who knows? Certainly not you. When she states hat her 5 year old son is the most unreasonable person she has ever met may be that is the truth. Does that give her the right to slap him? In her oppinion, yes. In yours, no. In mine, she is the parent she will do as she pleases. I was slapped as a child, am I mentally or physically scarred form this? Do I carry a hurt with in me from the situation? No. I remember it, yes. Though, it is no bother to me now. I had amazing, loving parents. I grew up just fine. If some one were to slap me would I press charges and have them thrown in prison? No. I would simply carry on with my life. Violence is nature.

You're right again. There was sarcasm in what I wrote, and I'm not surprised that you picked up on it. And your characterization of me as incompetent or lacking in English skills is spot on. How foolish I am to be concerned about a child who has been abused by an adult. She screamed at a five year old and smacked him across the face. She describes him as' the most unreasonable person' she 'has ever met'. She said 'he is an awful child' this five year old. Furthermore, 'he deserved it.' You were right to remind me that even though the child might not forget what happened he will get over it. After all children aren't fragile. Physical and emotional abuse always heals. Even if they don't, but it helps the mother to blame the abuse on the child, who am I to disagree. Of course if this parent were to do the same thing to another adult, it would be called an assault and could be punishable by imprisonment. Now that seems harsh when it would be better to blame the victim for such a crime. The victim should just be told to get over it; after all, that's what small defenseless children are expected to do.

Either you don't understand English or you're just plain incompitant. I never said the child will forget but he will certainly get over it. Like I said I've been in his position before. I also stated she is in no way right in her actions. Also, as I stated, you can not always judge how someone feels towards another person based off their words, especially when the person is upset or angry. Argue this point as much as you'd like but, one day you will do and see. In good time my dear. You stated the best way to foster good behavior is to ignore bad behavior in a way of sarcasm correct? So, you do not expect her to ignore her child's poor behavior right? Yes, she took it to far. Yes, there are better ways she could have handled the situation and so on, but, again we are brought to.. She is human, humans make mistakes. Is she right? No. Looking back now she probably realizes this and sees how she ould have done differently here. Her words are clearly words of anger, but I do not see them as being that of hate. Don't like it? Move the hell on. ;) thanks.

I see no point in judging her for the simple fact that ONE action does not make her a bad person. She did not cause extreme harm to the child. Yes she was physical towards him which is wrong, but the boy will get over it trust me, ive been in his position. She didn't say she plans on continuing this behavior. Yes she is wrong in how she acted, but is your judgement, critism, or other going to help her 'fix' what she is doing wrong? No. So what is the point. A few words do not show that she hates the child, has she said 'I hate him'? No. So you can not tell weather she 'hates' him or not based off this. We all say things that are rude mean nasty or hurtful at some point to or about many important people in our lives even if we do not hate them.

Do your children a favor and give them up for adoption. You are very immature and have irrational expectations for a five year old. I pray that something happens so an adult with a brain can raise your children so they have a chance of being normal human beings.

Did she say even once that she hated her child? No. Did she say she was going to continue these actions as punishment? No. Do I agree with what she did? No. She is human though, we all make mistakes, we all take things to far, we all do things and say things when we are angry that should not be said or done. So I see no point in judging her or putting her down. Are you done because I can argue forever over this if you'd like.

I know the frustration you're talking about - sometimes my kids make me see red red red they are so unreasonable! It's especially maddening when you've just gone out of your way to give them a nice treat (My kids love McDonalds as well). Everybody has their weak moments when the frustration feels like too much to bear and we do things we regret. I think the important thing is to learn from this experience and most importantly be very open with your son, tell him you're sorry for losing your temper and smacking him. Don't say anything like 'this happened because you were a bad boy' or anything like that. Just say sorry and give him a hug and I'm sure your relationship with him will have grown and healed by the end of the conversation.

An illustration of what happens when a spoiled self-centered brat becomes physically larger and finds the internet.

That's not what I'm saying, stop being a smart ass. What I'm saying is that she realizes she is wrong. If she corrects her actions good for her. If she does not then there maybe room for more criticism she apparently does not BEAT her child, she slapped him one time. No that is not ok, but everyone makes mistakes at some point some worse than other but the mistake does not make the person any worse than anyone else. I'm sure you have said nd done things in your past that we're not exactly the best when handling a situation. Every parent makes some sort of mistake in the discipline of their child/children. Also no where in my previous comment was it stated that I agreed with her or that she was right. Although, One mistake does not make her a bad mother.

Your right; it's never good to tell someone the truth if it might not make them feel good about themselves. For the sake of her self esteem, let's forget about the child's welfare and agree that her ' child is the most unreasonable person' she ' has ever met.' That should make her a better mother. Poor thing she was just misunderstood.

You can't just assume that she is going to continue to disipline her child in this way, and to be so harsh on her will not incourage her to change the actions that we see as improper punishment.

Let's think about the EFFECTIVENESS of the 'smack': Did the child 'learn' that he was being unreasonable? No. He believes that he 'learned' that his mother is a 'bad mommy' and he certainly will be less likely to trust her judgment in the future. A 'smack' does not 'teach' a child to be reasonable or less self-entitled. Rather it teaches that physical dominance is the only tool that a parent has over them and that once they are strong enough they will not have to obey their parents any more. As parents we have far more effective tools that stem from our position as provider, authority figure and especially as the person who loves them most in the world. Time outs, if done correctly, are amazingly effective with most children because they want our approval so dearly. A time out keeps the focus on the child rather than transfering it to the injustice of the parent's physical response. They allow for discussion and learning afterward that a 'smack' can never accomplish. Do they always work? Probably not, but there are other tools, such as loss of privileges, rewards, etc. I used to believe that physical discipline (spanking) was necessary until someone pointed out to me that 'spare the rod, spoil the child' does not require physical discipline. Have I ever 'felt' like hitting my child? Of course! Children ARE unreasonable (which is what led me to read this confession!) However, I have never, and I pray that I may never, do so, may never hit anything else in her presence or in any way threaten to hit her. I do not want THAT to be the basis of our relationship or the basis of her obedience. (BTW, I am not a perfect parent and you are not a 'bad mommy'. That is not the point of my post.) Please, let's distinguish three VERY DIFFERENT concepts: 1) DISCIPLINE: Training a child to do what is right. It must be mostly PRO-active, patient, repetitive, with rewards and praises more than criticisms/consequences. 2) PUNISHMENT: An undesirable consequence for failing to meet expectations. It should be a SMALL part of discipline, but it cannot substitute for discipline! 3) RAGE: An emotional response, often resulting in physical violence. Our greatest humanity is our ability to overcome our animalistic urges. Nearly any parent has had the desire to hit their child. We are human because we can choose to overcome that urge. There is a HUGE difference between a 'smack' and a spanking. There is NO positive educational benefit in hitting someone out of frustration. If a parent chooses corporal punishment, it should not EVER be done in anger or it almost certainly will cross the line to abuse. My parents spanked me many times when I was young, many of which I thought were out of their emotions more than as a just response to my actions. However, the time that is seared in my memory is when my father 'smacked' me across the face out of his frustration. Food for thought... As I said above, I am not a perfect parent, but one comment by a person on an airplane transformed my view of the necessity of corporal punishment in raising children. I hope that I can pass on that blessing to at least one more person. Mark Moran

most 5 yr olds are unreasonable. since you clearly have no coping skills, he has learned a lot of it from you. this kid doesn't stand a chance, add to that the fact you clearly don't like your own kid and we have a little serial killer in the making. a lot of them have mommy issues. not enough love from mom coupled with irrational physical violence, nice parenting. it would have killed you to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and some apple slices? you must be very young. that's why we have so many criminal teens, they have parents who are still children trying to raise kids. i have 2 young adult children, 18 and 19 and one 4 yr old, and i have never slapped any of them across the face for any reason. not even my very unreasonable 18 yr old. so your response as the adult, the parent your children look to for guidance, to a child out of control, was to show him that even as an adult you too are out of control, on top of that you blame him for your own lack of coping skills and proper parenting skills. unreal. i notice no mention of daddy at all - typical. get on birth control.

This is going to drag on for months isn't it?

There are just some kids who have a self entitled personality and the only way to instill some humility is to smack them. Not beat the child; But just a smack on the hands or butt. I see so other young adults such as myself speak to their parents like ungrateful assholes and they're parents seem perfectly normal. Everytime I see sad things like that I like to think 'This could've been prevented if they just smacked him/her'. Everyone on this forum who's saying that you had beat your kid has never been hit by their parents and are probably still self entitled assholes like your kid. I think you were in the right, but don't end up beating the child lol

You mean before she lovingly breaks some bones or the kids spirit.

Its not that she doesn't want to be bothered with the responsibility she just handled the situation in a way that isn't exactly the best, she is fairly new to parenting, give her a break.

So why don't you beat him up like the poster did?

I completely feel for you. My son (6) is the exact same way! He is so so unreasonable and illogical. He has pushed me to the breaking point more times than I can count. He is very very very very VERY persistent too. He seems UNABLE to say 'ok' or just let something go. I think the persistence will serve him well in his adult life but it makes for a very difficult kid to be around much of the time!!!

I hope that someday your child would hit you back. C'mon, have patience. He's a 5 year old kid.

No one can force another to raise their child and/or children in a way the parent doesnt aprove. But my word of advice to every parent out there weather new or expeirienced, dont ever let it get out of hand otherwise you and said child will head down a bad road. i've never expeirienced an urge to hit my daughter so i dont know how helpful i can be. I guess you should stop the physical punishment when if you start to get a kick out of hitting them. That is all.

Some people dont notice when others are sarcastic, not that thats relevant or anything, just sayin'

Hey, you love your kids; that's the difference.

Being a mother of a 4 and a 9 year old, I know my kids can be a bit annoying, hell I can't even get then to spend more than one night at either of their GrandParents. But I do not feel the need to smack them just because they don't like what I offered them, I tell them what they can have and if they don't like it, they can starve( no I do not starve them, they eventually eat what I have given them). If they are hungry they will eat. Like I say my kids are not perfect, but they behave when it counts.

This isn't about parenting. This is about a person who has a kid but doesn't want to be bothered with the responsibility.

Have you never been exposed to sarcasm before.

Ok heres the thing, i have two other siblings and our parents never hit us for any reason. We didnt turn out to be disrespectful degenerates like most would assume. Now im sure there are some young adults out there who were raised that way and are now in jail or something but that upringing worked for my family. Theres other ways besides physical punishment when it comes to raising kids. And lets be real, some kids really will be negatively affected when that happens to them, i've heard some pretty bad stories from people about there messed up families.

I'd like to point out that this guy is glad the kid was hurt.

First off, he is your child not mine a word of advice though. You shouldn't smack a 5 year old across the face, there are better less iolent was to handle things, also, you are the parent not him you decide when and what he eats. If you make suggestions and he denies them you simply make the choice for him. Yelling and screaming at him and being physical towards him will not teach him to respect you, only to fear you. He does things your way or he doesn't do them at all he tells you he oesnt want what you suggest you tell him he will have to wait till later then. Your way or no way, that goes or everything. You are in no way a bad mom you support him and take care of him you just need to figure things out a little. Good luck.

Better me than your kid.

I'm tired of these parents (like you) that think they have to kiss juniors ass. It's because of so called 'parents' like you that we have a generation of rude, disrespectful, and spoiled kids that feel they can do whatever they want. Oh, and fuck you too.

What disturbs me the most is that she keeps saying how he 'deserved it'. Do kids really deserve to be to feel pain brought on by the hands of their caretakers?

and fuck you too

fuck you

Just put a little food in front of him and tell him that's what you are having for lunch. His choice is to eat it or not. End of problem.

The important thing is that no one got hurt but the kid.

Oh blah. It's not a regular event. He'll be fine. And let's put it this way-- you can knock the crap out of him or life will knock the crap out of him and who do you think will hit harder? NO ONE ELSE in life is EVER going to be as patient or as accommodating to your child as you will. Keep in mind, your child will be out on his own LONGER than he'll be with you. Teach him well. It's good to keep your temper but I'm telling you, you can't be up this kids ass forever because then he expects that's how EVERYONE will be. And you and I both know that ain't how it works. Some kids DON'T hear no even when they are being told no for their own good and need the point punctuated. You ARE human, you WILL be pushed to your limit because kids don't give a good goddam about being fair-- they care about getting what they want when they want it. THAT's what makes them kids. Anyone who says different has either never raised a kid or lives in friggin' LaLa land. You can always 'say' what you're going to do but the REALITY is NO ONE can accurately determine what they'd do in any situation they've NEVER been in in their life. So give it up. Don't worry, the kid is fine and so are you. There is SO much growth and living going on in childhood and parenting that if this is something you seriously think you or your kid are going to remember this time next year, you're out of your mind. If this was a habit or the only way you know how to handle your kid, then I'd say you have a problem. But it's not. You're fine. The kid is fine. Quit worrying.

Sorry. I realize that there was only one person commenting. But, again, good luck with your future of being a perfect parent. Keep in mind that most people get evenings, weekends, and holidays from their jobs. As a stay at home mom, my job never effing ends. Just one great big party 24 effing 7.

I am not going to say that hitting my son was a good decision. I have spent the majority of this day thinking about how I could have responded differently. I do not plan on hitting my child ever again. My sincere hope for both of you who commented on my post is that you have perfect children who never frustrate you and that you can also be a perfect parent. Good luck. You're gonna need it. Cause parenting certainly isn't easy.

Oh and i would like to add that its not your sons fault that you hit him, its your fault that you hit him. You think your son is unreasonable? what about the mom who thought it was ok slap him? Thats not unreasonable?

I wouldnt smack him if he was my son, my father thought he could hurt me whenever i didnt do something the right way and it developed into child abuse. The abuse didnt stop until my late teens when i prosocuted my dad for everything he did. Oh and i would like to ask you this, how do you think your reaction reflects on your parenting skills? What does it say about you as a parent if you couldnt handle a 5 year old acting like a 5 year old? And from the sound of it he wasnt saying no to be mean or disrespectful. I couldnt bare to see a child suffer pain from the hands of their parents, thats why im never going to hit my kids when i start a family. I guess the point im trying to get across is that your son the 5 year old was exhibiting normal 5 year old behavior and you punished him for it. Just sit down and ask yourself if children really deserve to be physically hurt by the ones they love most. After all, your child is going to remember the moment you hit him for a long time no matter how much you comfort him after.