i appriciate you taking the time to type out an apology that was not necessary. the explanation was more than enough. :) as far as i am concerned there is nothing to forgive. i know you more than likely went through an upwards battle divorce. TRUST ME, i know all about that sort of thing. i am also happy you have found someone i know is a great guy (whom i think the world of) and will treat you with respect and compassion. i wish you both all the happiness that two people who are so good for each other deserve. i also know how people can treat couples just starting out together on this site. (as you have seen) turbo and i have our own private chat room and it is great. we loved the privacy from the start and still chat for hours each day as well as on the phone. i hope stanno and yourself start the same kind of routine. it's much more personal than e-mailing or being in a chat room with so many other people. you can even invite as many people as you like to chat. all you have to do is e-mail them an invitation and they can come in and chat anytime . (with a password YOU provide them with) it's all free. if someone enters the room you can see imeaditly and can quickly erase anything personal you don't want anyone else to read. as far as vic goes, i have never seen her make any kind of attempt at forgive and forget. not that it really matters. i'm glad that the two of you have found such good friends in each other, but i have been a poster on this site for close to a year. i have always said i can forgive but i never forget. vic did make several uncalled for comments after the fact that evening. these are what lead me to believe she was shorty. i now and have for some time felt i was wrong for thinking that. however, she up until a month or so was still throwing around her 'joking' comments and slurs towards turbo and i. i can get along with anyone who wants to show a decent and sensibile side. (even vic)i am not and have never been a very trusting person for good reason. turbo is the first person i have taken my shield down for in a very long time. i will always be weary of people, but i can also be a good friend to most people if they show me the same. i thank you for explaining things even if it was late coming. the fact that you did take the time to explain is what matters. i do apologize for any heartache or hurt feelings i may have caused you. i hope to chat with you on better terms than we are accustomed to. thanks. :D